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Who is the Merovingian?

A previous One and Persephone is a previous Trinity
19%
 19%  [ 66 ]
A previous One
7%
 7%  [ 26 ]
A former agent
2%
 2%  [ 9 ]
The creator of the Matrix
1%
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Nobody special. Just the husband of Persephone
3%
 3%  [ 12 ]
Have no idea
3%
 3%  [ 13 ]
Just an exile program using his knowledge to form an evil underground empire
62%
 62%  [ 214 ]
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Who is the Merovingian?  

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I dont think the Merovigian is a previous one  

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When Neo visited the Architect, The previous Ones apeared on screens on the walls of the room, None of them looked like the Merovigian. That doesn't mean he couldn't have changed his appearence or still someone elses body kinda like smith, but it just sounds very unlikely. Why would he do that? unless it was a necesity, but still that's just too much. There's only two or so more hours of plot left to see in the matrix. I really dont think they'll spend the time talking about the Merovigian being a previous One, and if he were, then they would at least have mentioned him in the cast list for revolutions.
I also read the "How many Neos have existed? How many Zions?" section and that contradicts what i just wrote a little, but the TV screens to me show sometimes reactions of previous Ones, like in the part of the "4-3-2" predesesors, and sometimes is just the new (6th) neo, like when he leaves the room. People would have to read the section to see what i'm talking about, I dont want to restate everything.
And that other part about some of the residents of Zion recognizing Neo, It could also be possible that they get freed from the matrix without ever seen Neo. And have hust been told about him by the oracle.
I guess i'm going a bit out of topic here, but i just wanted to make sure my point has some backup.

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They werent pictures of the previous ones. They were just pictures of Neo's reactions and his life, and him at that time. The previous ones i believe would look different each time. tyhink of it as an experiment. Is each anomaly always the same? this wouldnt make it an anomaly if it was would it................

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Merovingian is a bloodline of French royalty said to be from the bloodline of Jesus. With all of the Neo/Jesus references, this is an obvious clue. However....
The Merovingian did say that he had faced Neo's predecessors, so please add the poll option of "Just a criminally minded AI exile who used his knowledge to form an evil underground empire"

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I feel that the Merovingian represents everything that is 'bad' in the Matrix - Power, Greed, Lust, Selfishness, Pride etc..
He has power and wants to keep a tight hold on that power and his status.
Remember ~ Absolute power corrupts absolutely.....
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Merovinigian's role  

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Merovinigian's role is that basically of the Windows operating systems registry. He is what keeps the matrix running and the programs working in a particular order so they can work together.

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spanky wrote:

Merovinigian's role is that basically of the Windows operating systems registry. He is what keeps the matrix running and the programs working in a particular order so they can work together.

Sorry, you are only looking at the film on the very surface ~ you really have to look much deeper than that....

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merovingian is a bloodline of David & Jesus ,
so he is ... a jew,
zion is also jewish,
"matrix" is produced by jews...
and so is the real matrix....

...in a word,
it is all a big jewish crap.

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he is a program with many abilities... not just an exile program, his function is far more important, but we will only discover in revolutions...

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I belive that the Merivingian is just a program gone bad on a power trip.

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When Neo visits the Oracle she tells him that the keymaker is being held by "and especially dangerous program, one of the oldest of us [the programs]" So there is the answer, the Merovinigian is simply another program, just the the Keymaker, the Oracle, and Agent Smith Cool

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I feel that the Merovingian represents everything that is 'bad' in the Matrix - Power, Greed, Lust, Selfishness, Pride etc..
He has power and wants to keep a tight hold on that power and his status.
Remember ~ Absolute power corrupts absolutely..... Twisted Evil

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Another Smith wrote:

everything that is 'bad' in the Matrix - Power, Greed, Lust, Selfishness, Pride etc..

Lust and pride are bad?

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Lust and pride are bad?

You can have too much of a GOOD thing...

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Yes... lust and pride are bad. However, I can see how it would be difficult to tell seeing the amount of sexual content which plagues our society, and the fact that the Disney channel promotes "believing in yourself" or a form of self-pride.

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"believing in yourself" or a form of self-pride".

So The ONE is commiting a sin then....

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Theres a difference between pride and knowing ones self

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But he believes in himself.

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aryan proleterian wrote:

merovingian is a bloodline of David & Jesus ,
so he is ... a jew,
zion is also jewish,
"matrix" is produced by jews...
and so is the real matrix....

...in a word,
it is all a big jewish crap.


Amen to that!

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Merovingian comes from Matrix v1.0b  

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Merovingian comes from the first matrix version. That is why his minions are mythological characters (vampires, werewolves, etc.). I voted that he is just a powerfull program, but he might have been a previous agent (also from the first version) that was also deleted by the first One (like neo did to smith), with the difference that merovingian didn't went crazy and didn't aquire god-like powers (maybe the first One didn't have as much "Oneness" has neo does). My opinion comes from the historical fact that Merovingians claimed to be blood related to Jesus. Smith is code related Smile to Neo.

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The simple fact that has NOT been pulled over your eyes 8)  

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He is a program exile Screwy . It was stated. The Oracle would not lie because that would create many plot holes such as why did she help Neo & Trinity. Persephone definetly has more meaning than the Mervogian. Believe me Neutral .

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merovingian is a bloodline of David & Jesus ,
so he is ... a jew,
zion is also jewish,
"matrix" is produced by jews...
and so is the real matrix....

...in a word,
it is all a big jewish crap.


Wow aryan proleterian, you're really in touch with Jewish news and events. How do you become so well informed? I got it! You're Jewish, aren't you?

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Merovingian is the first One  

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has anyone else already posted this thought? At first I thought he was a Lucifer figure since he's the embodiment of cynicism ie. causality. But since he's so obviously a previous One (all the different quotes that have already been posted), I think he's kind of both ie. the first shining angel (the One) that fell ie. I think Mero just decided to stay in the Matrix, and used his power to rise in there. In M2, The Oracle talks about programs that get replaced. When that happens, they either face exile in the matrix or go back to the source. I think Neo is one of those 'ghosts' but the difference between him and Mero is that he did go to the source. he found out he's a control, but defied the natural course of things because of love (just like in M1). I'm guessing their love is going to 'screw up the natural order of things' in M3 too.

does this make sense?

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tivadar wrote:

I think Mero just decided to stay in the Matrix, and used his power to rise in there.
So what, his mind left his body and just stayed there, leaving the body to die?

tivadar wrote:

In M2, The Oracle talks about programs that get replaced. When that happens, they either face exile in the matrix or go back to the source. I think Neo is one of those 'ghosts' but the difference between him and Mero is that he did go to the source... ...does this make sense?
Not quite, since Neo has an actual body which got rescued in the first film. So, even if he is a program, he's not only that!

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OK the Matrix uses tons of religion and mythological references to tell it's tale. Building on those themes. Here are some interesting plots to consider.

Zion = Jerusalem. Heart of all humanity.

In human history, Merovingian is a line of Kings descendant from of the original bloodline of the true king of Jerusalem, the Son of David.

The Architect is an AI, created by machines to build the Matrix.

Merovingian collects old programs, vampires, werewolves, from the early Matrix. These programs are echoed into the matrix as myths and legends. Merovingian can influence the Matrix from behind the scenes. He also holds the key maker, who can travel through backdoors that the architect can not find, outside of the matrix. He is outside the grasp of the Architect, independent running, of the Matrix. He has mixed feelings of helping Neo, if he said the right thing he would have been helped. Instead he tries to stop Neo from succeeding. Why?

Merovingian is descendant(coded from) from the original program that is Zion.

Merovingian has this power because it was to be the original Matrix, a first or earlier version. But was rejected by humans because they thought it should be something else. It was replaced with the Architect, who gives the people what they want, Merovingian has made a pact with the Architect, to have stronger power within the matrix (the old programs do things outside the rules of the matrix). In exchange for this power in the Matrix, the Merovingian promises to not reveal the true nature of Zion. The Merovingian would like to take the place of the Architect, so will only help the One if he is sure he will win. Neo could destroy not only the Architect, but the Zion construct as well. Hence the Merovingian will not help him.

Is Merovingian the original architect? Written by the creator of Zion, (to create a better place for sleeping people to live their lives in ignorant bliss) that should be the true ruler, or Architect, of the Matrix?

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